I have heard that The Epic of Gilgamesh may predate the stories of Noah told in Abrahamic works. Is there any evidence to support which story came first?
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5"I have heard that the The Epic of Gilgamesh may predate the stories of Noah told in Abrahamic works" where have you heard this? If there's any research that you can share in the question, that research will lead to better answers.– user111Commented Sep 27, 2017 at 4:12
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Are you asking which story occurred first (assuming both occurred, and are not the same event), or which story was described in a written work first?– AlexCommented Jan 2, 2019 at 23:18
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@Alex I am not sure what you are asking me to clarify that is within the scope of this site.– James JenkinsCommented Jan 3, 2019 at 13:08
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The "standard" version of the Epic of Gilgamesh, the one edited by Sîn-lēqi-unninni, is dated to somewhere between 1300 BCE and 1000 BCE. Although the epic is far earlier, this is the version that includes Utanapishtim's story of the flood.
The dating of Genesis, however, as many matters that may have some religious significance is not entirely concluded. Depending on who you ask, you will receive answers ranging from 1400 BCE to the 5th century BCE, with the earlier limit of the range stemming from traditional views rather than scientific methods (e.g. the disputed concept of Mosaic authorship). If you accept the more conservative estimations of about 700 BCE, then the flood myth in Gilgamesh is clearly earlier.
If on the other hand, you wish to allow for the wildly exaggerated traditional datings, then I think you should also permit for a small switch of focus from Gilgamesh to the Akkadian Epic of Atra-Hasis. Atra-Hasis also includes a flood myth, and it's widely accepted1 that the flood myth in Tablet XI of the aforementioned "standard" version of Gilgamesh derives from it.
Furthermore, the flood myth in Gilgamesh is not directly comparable to the biblical narrative. In Gilgamesh, the tale of the flood is secondary to the eponymous hero's quest and is severely restricted by its first person narrative; Utanapishtim can only tell us what he personally experienced. One of the more important things we never learn, for example, is the reason for the flood, as, presumably, Utanapishtim was not aware of it.
Atra-Hasis, on the other hand, provides us with the history of the world before the creation of man, and a fuller story of the deluge, including an explanation of its cause. It is, therefore, a lot more comparable to Genesis than Gilgamesh, and this I believe is why we should focus on it instead. Following this path will lead us to an even clearer answer to your question as the earliest known record of Atra-Hasis can be dated to around 1646–1626 BCE (during the reign of Ammi-Saduqa), by its colophon. Thus, Atra-Hasis is earlier even if we accept Moses wrote Genesis.
Lastly, I would be remiss not to mention that the other Mesopotamian flood story, the Sumerian tale of Ziusudra, is also older than Genesis. The story is told in a single tablet, that has been dated to around 1600 BCE.
1 "In the intervening years, it is true, it had become clear that what Smith had discovered, the eleventh tablet of the Gilgamesh Epic, was derivative" - Moran, William L. “Atrahasis: The Babylonian Story of the Flood.” Biblica, vol. 52, no. 1, 1971, pp. 51–61. www.jstor.org/stable/42609705.
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This isn't an answer to the question as it stands, which specifically asks "Which of the 2 is first", not "What is the earliest flood story". You may want to address that. Also, do you have a source for the "was seemingly adapted" claim?– user72Commented Jan 22, 2017 at 19:30
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3@amaranth Our current understanding is that the books of the Pentateuch were created sometime in the 6th century BCE. With that authorship date for Genesis, there's no question to answer, Gilgamesh is clearly earlier by a few centuries. That said, some scholars may stick to the widely disputed 1400 BCE date. My intent was to show that even then, the flood story in Gilgamesh is older (by virtue of originating in Atra-Hasis), even if the earliest known copy of it might be around the same age or slightly younger than Genesis.– user8Commented Jan 22, 2017 at 19:30
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@Riker Have you ever read Gilgamesh?– user8Commented Jan 22, 2017 at 19:32
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@Yannis yes, I did before posting my answer. My point still stands though, you should probably provide a source (even if it is just "from showing many similarities").– user72Commented Jan 22, 2017 at 19:33
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3Both written texts refer to the flood, but the flood is thought to have happened much earlier in human history, long before humans were writing anything. Very early ancient texts are notoriously inaccurate in regards to timing; for example, the Sumerian king lists tell us that the first Sumerian kings ruled for tens of thousands of years. There is a strong possibility that both texts refer to the same flood, as both regard the same region of the world and would have been affected similarly by the floods created by melt at the end of the last glacial period, ending roughly around 10000 BCE. Commented Feb 9, 2017 at 15:01
Walther Sallaberger's book Das Gilgamesch-Epos. Mythos, Werk und Tradition (C. H. Beck, 2008) discusses the flood story mainly in the context of the Standard Babylonian version of the Gilgamesh Epic. This is the version whose redaction is attributed to Sîn-lēqi-unninni and which Sallaberger dates to the 11th century BC. There is no evidence that the flood story was part of earlier Gilgamesh stories, such as the five or six Sumerian stories (which do not constitute a continuous narrative), the Old Babylonian version (which is very fragmentary but appears to have been an integrated epic.), the Hittite version (which was shorter than the Standard Babylonian version and in prose) or in other older versions.
However, the flood story on Tablet XI of the Standard Babylonian version of the epic did not come out of the blue. The story on Tablet XI is based on the Atrahasis story, which existed in several versions. Benjamin R. Foster's anthology Before the Muses: An Anthology of Akkadian Literature (CDL Press, 2005) provides several versions (translations of the fragments that have been discovered so far): an Old Babylonian version, a Middle Babylonian version (a dozen incomplete lines from a tablet found in Nippur), a Late Babylonian version and a Late Assyrian version. The Classical or Old Babylonian period lasted approximately from 1850 to 1500 BC.
That the Standard Babylonian version used the Atrahasis story is obvious from verbal parallels, including an occurrence of the name "Atrahasis" instead of Utanapishtim in Ea's speech in Tablet XI.
If we accept the Standard Babylonian version of the Gilgamesh Epic as the earliest Gilgamesh story that contains the flood, it is clear that this story is older than the story in the Book of Genesis, which probably dates from the 6th and 5th centuries BC.
Note: user8's answer appears to misinterpret the phrase "Standard Babylonian version" as "standard version". However, "Standard" is capitalised because it refers to Babylonian (as in "Standard Chinese") and not to "version". Standard Babylonian refers to a specific literary style used during the Mature and Late periods of Akkadian literature. This style can be distinguished from the older Hymnic-Epic style. (See Benjamin R. Foster: Before the Muses: An Anthology of Akkadian Literature, CDL Press, 2005, pages 3-4.) The Standard Babylonian version may be called the “standard version” because that is the version that remained (relatively) stable until the last extant manuscript of the epic.
It's unknown, but it appears that although The Epic of Gilgamesh was written first, the Pentateuch (part of the Bible containing the creation stories) has the first description of the flood story.
From the Idaho University page on The Epic of Gilgamesh:
The oldest existing versions of this poem date to c 2000 BC, in Sumerian cuneiform. The more complete versions date to c. 700 BC, in the Akkadian language. The standard, first "complete" version, which includes the flood myth, is dated to c. 1300-1000 BC.
TL;DR: Oldest version of the poem is from around 2000 BC, the first version to depict the flood is around 1300-1000 BC.
In the book The City of God by Saint Augustine (best reference I can find), Moses is told to have been born in 1400 BC and died in 1201 BC.
Augustine also pens Moses as the author of the whole Pentateuch, so the flood story was written by him at some point during his lifetime.
So the Biblical flood story was written from around 1430-1201 BC, whereas the first version of The Epic of Gilgamesh to contain the flood story was written from 1300-1000 BC.
So it's possible either way, but it's most likely they were written somewhat concurrently.
Do note that it's unknown for sure whether Moses wrote the Pentateuch, but since the end of Genesis/beginning of Exodus (the first 2 books) discuss Moses, it's necessarily at this time period or after. (IIRC there is a 50 year gap between the books however)
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2There's a lot of disagreement on Mosaic authorship. See WP. Commented Jan 20, 2017 at 3:58
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@Nathaniel yes, but since genesis ends/exodus picks up at moses, it's necessarily around that time period (or after). I will add that to the post.– user72Commented Jan 20, 2017 at 3:59
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4Sure. Just pointing out that modern scholarship doesn't give much credibility to the traditional view that Augustine was working from. Commented Jan 20, 2017 at 4:01
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@Nathaniel ah, okay. My most recent biblical study was on Augustine and his time, thanks for letting me know though.– user72Commented Jan 20, 2017 at 4:02
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Note that the internal dating of the Bible places Moses hundreds of years after the flood story. There are some 15 generations between Noah and Moses: Noah>Shem>Arphaxad>Salah>Eber>Peleg>Reu>Serug>Nahor>Terah>Abraham>Isaac>Jacob>Levi>Kohat>Amram>Moses.– AlexCommented Sep 21, 2020 at 2:38
Technically Gilgamesh was written first because genesis was written by Moses who lived anywhere between 1300-2000 years after the flood. One estimate is Moses lived 1377 years after Noah. I did the math with that number and Noah would have been around 877 during the time of Gilgamesh. Noah didn’t die until he was 950. So it like that Gilgamesh was referring to the same flood in Genesis.
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3Please provide evidence for your claims, e.g. when Moses lived relative to Gilgamesh– bobbleCommented Sep 11, 2023 at 5:23
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2Your maths doesn't stand up. Where are you getting these numbers from? Commented Sep 11, 2023 at 8:25