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this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description of how the speaker (not Wordsworth) perceives the child. Like the speaker, you describe her response as refusing to acknowledge something patently obvious. Why do you think Wordsworth did that?

He prefaced Lyrical Ballads, which included this ballad, with a description of the wisdom of the rural people. Because they live close to nature, Wordsworth claimed, they'retheir perceptions are shaped by nature and its rhythms and processes. He believed they represent human nature is itself molded by the natural world. By contrast, educated urban residents are surrounded by an artificial environment and they have lost touch with the natural world and with natural human feelingsnature itself. By studying rural people and their feelings, he believed, we can find the natural feelings we have lost touch with. His poetry seeks to teach us how to find the human nature we have lost because of our artificial lives.

In that light, the child's insistence on including her dead siblings as continuing members of the family makes more sense. Death in nature is a seasonal affair, with flowers dying in Autumn only to reappear in Spring. Death is less an absolutethe actual end than part of something than a phase in a cyclical process. And the child knows this.

If you think about the poem as a commentary on the speaker, rather than the child, it is saying something about his limitations. Why is he so resistant to her perspective? Why so determined to teach her about his own, more artificial view of mortality as something final? Why can't he listen to this child of nature and learn from her about mortality in the natural world?

  And why do we modern readers identify with that speaker and his blind ignorance of human nature? What does it suggest about us?

In reading Wordsworth's ballads, you need to reconsider things you take for granted before you can see that behind a simple story, like this one, lies a much deeper philosophical meaning. His poems often work in that fashion. But that's why they are worth reading over and over again.

this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description of how the speaker (not Wordsworth) perceives the child. Like the speaker, you describe her response as refusing to acknowledge something patently obvious. Why do you think Wordsworth did that?

He prefaced Lyrical Ballads, which included this ballad, with a description of the wisdom of the rural people. Because they live close to nature, Wordsworth claimed, they're perceptions are shaped by nature and its rhythms and processes. He believed they represent human nature itself. By contrast, educated urban residents are surrounded by an artificial environment and they have lost touch with the natural world and with natural human feelings. By studying rural people and their feelings, he believed, we can find the natural feelings we have lost touch with. His poetry seeks to teach us how to find the human nature we have lost because of our artificial lives.

In that light, the child's insistence on including her dead siblings as continuing members of the family makes more sense. Death in nature is a seasonal affair, with flowers dying in Autumn only to reappear in Spring. Death is less an absolute end than part of a cyclical process. And the child knows this.

If you think about the poem as a commentary on the speaker, rather than the child, it is saying something about his limitations. Why is he so resistant to her perspective? Why so determined to teach her about his own, more artificial view of mortality as something final? Why can't he listen to this child of nature and learn from her about mortality in the natural world?

  And why do we modern readers identify with that speaker and his blind ignorance of human nature? What does it suggest about us?

In reading Wordsworth's ballads, you need to reconsider things you take for granted before you can see that behind a simple story, like this one, lies a much deeper philosophical meaning. His poems often work in that fashion. But that's why they are worth reading over and over again.

this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description of how the speaker (not Wordsworth) perceives the child. Like the speaker, you describe her response as refusing to acknowledge something patently obvious. Why do you think Wordsworth did that?

He prefaced Lyrical Ballads, which included this ballad, with a description of the wisdom of the rural people. Because they live close to nature, Wordsworth claimed, their perceptions are shaped by nature and its rhythms and processes. He believed human nature is itself molded by the natural world. By contrast, educated urban residents are surrounded by an artificial environment and they have lost touch with the natural world and with human nature itself. By studying rural people and their feelings, he believed, we can find the natural feelings we have lost touch with. His poetry seeks to teach us how to find the human nature we have lost because of our artificial lives.

In that light, the child's insistence on including her dead siblings as continuing members of the family makes more sense. Death in nature is a seasonal affair, with flowers dying in Autumn only to reappear in Spring. Death is less the actual end of something than a phase in a cyclical process. And the child knows this.

If you think about the poem as a commentary on the speaker, rather than the child, it is saying something about his limitations. Why is he so resistant to her perspective? Why so determined to teach her about his own, more artificial view of mortality as something final? Why can't he listen to this child of nature and learn from her about mortality in the natural world? And why do we modern readers identify with that speaker and his blind ignorance of human nature? What does it suggest about us?

In reading Wordsworth's ballads, you need to reconsider things you take for granted before you can see that behind a simple story, like this one, lies a much deeper philosophical meaning. His poems often work in that fashion. But that's why they are worth reading over and over again.

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this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description, but it all focuses on of how the speaker (not Wordsworth) perceives the child. Like the speaker of the poem, you describe her response as extraordinaryrefusing to acknowledge something patently obvious. Why do you think Wordsworth did that? 

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this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description, but it all focuses on the child. Like the speaker of the poem, you describe her response as extraordinary. Why do you think Wordsworth did that? He prefaced Lyrical Ballads, which included this ballad, with a description of the wisdom of rural people who live close to nature and understand natural rhythms and processes better than urban residents, who have lost touch with the natural world.

How would it change the meaning of the poem for you if you thought about it as a commentary on the speaker rather than on the child? Is it saying something about his limitations? Why is he so resistant to her perspective? Why so determined to teach her about mortality instead of learning from her about mortality in the natural world and our place in it?

That's not an answer, but a suggestion that you look at what you take for granted in the poem. Wordsworth often works in that fashion. It's why he's worth reading over and over again.

this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description of how the speaker (not Wordsworth) perceives the child. Like the speaker, you describe her response as refusing to acknowledge something patently obvious. Why do you think Wordsworth did that? 

He prefaced Lyrical Ballads, which included this ballad, with a description of the wisdom of the rural people. Because they live close to nature, Wordsworth claimed, they're perceptions are shaped by nature and its rhythms and processes. He believed they represent human nature itself. By contrast, educated urban residents are surrounded by an artificial environment and they have lost touch with the natural world and with natural human feelings. By studying rural people and their feelings, he believed, we can find the natural feelings we have lost touch with. His poetry seeks to teach us how to find the human nature we have lost because of our artificial lives.

In that light, the child's insistence on including her dead siblings as continuing members of the family makes more sense. Death in nature is a seasonal affair, with flowers dying in Autumn only to reappear in Spring. Death is less an absolute end than part of a cyclical process. And the child knows this.

If you think about the poem as a commentary on the speaker, rather than the child, it is saying something about his limitations. Why is he so resistant to her perspective? Why so determined to teach her about his own, more artificial view of mortality as something final? Why can't he listen to this child of nature and learn from her about mortality in the natural world?

And why do we modern readers identify with that speaker and his blind ignorance of human nature? What does it suggest about us?

In reading Wordsworth's ballads, you need to reconsider things you take for granted before you can see that behind a simple story, like this one, lies a much deeper philosophical meaning. His poems often work in that fashion. But that's why they are worth reading over and over again.

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this poem depicts the innocent nature of a child who just does not want to understand that her siblings have passed away of natural causes and continuously reiterating her determined claim that they are still seven children.

That's a nice description, but it all focuses on the child. Like the speaker of the poem, you describe her response as extraordinary. Why do you think Wordsworth did that? He prefaced Lyrical Ballads, which included this ballad, with a description of the wisdom of rural people who live close to nature and understand natural rhythms and processes better than urban residents, who have lost touch with the natural world.

How would it change the meaning of the poem for you if you thought about it as a commentary on the speaker rather than on the child? Is it saying something about his limitations? Why is he so resistant to her perspective? Why so determined to teach her about mortality instead of learning from her about mortality in the natural world and our place in it?

That's not an answer, but a suggestion that you look at what you take for granted in the poem. Wordsworth often works in that fashion. It's why he's worth reading over and over again.